00:36:19 HELM Tech Support: Please feel free to post your comments and questions here. 01:26:15 Nomalanga Mkhize: I'm interested in Europe, UK, US origin academics and their relative trajectory into SA Professoriate as a specific international group. 01:26:58 Palesa Sekhejane: I appreciate your recommendations, Crain - in support. I wish to know if the data in slide 23 is disaggregated? 01:27:11 Tasmeera Rajcoomar Singh: I strongly believe that IEASA also needs to be part of the joint task team as per the recommendations. 01:27:21 Divinia Jithoo: Reacted to "I strongly believe that IEASA also needs to be part of the joint task team as per the recommendations." with πŸ‘ 01:27:25 DSTEVENS: I agree with Prof Soudien's view that context matters and that is also why proportionality cannot be a fixed number - institutions will have different needs. 01:30:59 mahlubichief: Replying to "I strongly believe that IEASA also needs to be part of the joint task team as per the recommendations." Which task team colleague? 01:31:18 Segun Ojo: In the statistics, in addition to the research outputs contribution of the international academics, statistics on contributions to postgraduate M/D graduations should br included. 01:31:38 Emmanuel Mgqwashu: Reacted to "In the statistics, in addition to the research outputs contribution of the international academics, statistics on contributions to postgraduate M/D graduations should br included." with πŸ‘ 01:31:46 DSTEVENS: Reacted to "In the statistics, in addition to the research outputs contribution of the international academics, statistics on contributions to postgraduate M/D graduations should br included." with πŸ‘ 01:33:59 SHELDONM: Could we get clarity on the recommendation in the position paper pg 54: (i) USAf suggest the inclusion of Employment Equity targets for HE... (however the presenter seemed to present a different view on the difficulty of setting such targets). 01:34:53 SHELDONM: Reacted to "I strongly believe that IEASA also needs to be part of the joint task team as per the recommendations." with πŸ‘ 01:35:20 Divinia Jithoo: Agree with Dr Singh. IEASA representing international education in South Africa would be able to contribute the expertise on the historical data and the building of international education in South Africa while providing evidence on the benefits of diversity in the classroom through the plural perspectives provided by international staff in our universities. 01:36:36 Nomalanga Mkhize: Is this discourse about Black South Africans still alive?? 01:40:18 Duro Sadiku: Where does Naturalized SA citizen belong? Is he/she considered as foreign academic or SA academic? 01:41:15 Naomi Nkealah: Can there be a closer look at the figures for international academics for South Africa (11.4) and the US (15.8)? I suspect the US figure is mid-range because many immigrants academics in the US easily gain citizenship once tenured and therefore are no longer classified as 'foreign nationals', whereas in South Africa many immigrant academics remain non-citizens for decades even after being employed permanently. So the conversation about who is classified as an international academic or a foreign national needs to take into consideration different patterns to accessing citizenship in different countries. 01:41:44 Nomalanga Mkhize: Reacted to "Can there be a closer look at the figures for international academics for South Africa (11.4) and the US (15.8)? I suspect the US figure is mid-range because many immigrants academics in the US easily gain citizenship once tenured and therefore are no longer classified as 'foreign nationals', whereas in South Africa many immigrant academics remain non-citizens for decades even after being employed permanently. So the conversation about who is classified as an international academic or a foreign national needs to take into consideration different patterns to accessing citizenship in different countries." with ⭐ 01:42:00 Emmanuel Mgqwashu: Reacted to "Can there be a closer look at the figures for international academics for South Africa (11.4) and the US (15.8)? I suspect the US figure is mid-range because many immigrants academics in the US easily gain citizenship once tenured and therefore are no longer classified as 'foreign nationals', whereas in South Africa many immigrant academics remain non-citizens for decades even after being employed permanently. So the conversation about who is classified as an international academic or a foreign national needs to take into consideration different patterns to accessing citizenship in different countries." with πŸ‘ 01:42:22 Rehana Odendaal: Reacted to "I'm interested in Europe, UK, US origin academics and their relative trajectory into SA Professoriate as a specific international group." with πŸ‘πŸ½ 01:43:25 Nomalanga Mkhize: The Critical Skills issue needs to be made sector specific and complexified. You can hardly find Anthropologists with doctorates today - its become a scarce skill in the Humanities. People think its only Engineering and Science. 01:43:39 Heather Nel: Reacted to "The Critical Skills issue needs to be made sector specific and complexified. You can hardly find Anthropologists with doctorates today - its become a scarce skill in the Humanities. People think its only Engineering and Science." with πŸ‘ 01:43:46 Naomi Nkealah: Reacted to "The Critical Skills issue needs to be made sector specific and complexified. You can hardly find Anthropologists with doctorates today - its become a scarce skill in the Humanities. People think its only Engineering and Science." with πŸ‘ 01:43:55 Joseph: Reacted to "The Critical Skills issue needs to be made sector specific and complexified. You can hardly find Anthropologists with doctorates today - its become a scarce skill in the Humanities. People think its only Engineering and Science." with πŸ‘ 01:43:59 Nelisa Radu: Reacted to "The Critical Skill..." with πŸ‘ 01:45:31 Orla Quinlan: Good morning Colleagues, Could Felicity please share the position paper with all attendees on this webinar? Thank you. 01:46:39 HELM Tech Support: The recording and the rest of the resources will be available shortly. 01:46:42 Naomi Nkealah: Reacted to "In the statistics, in addition to the research outputs contribution of the international academics, statistics on contributions to postgraduate M/D graduations should br included." with πŸ‘ 01:47:38 Felicity Kokose: The Paper will be circulated with a Call for Comments - deadline end of August. it will be sent to the attendees and also posted on the USAf website 01:48:40 MM: Reacted to "The Paper will be circulated with a Call for Comments - deadline end of August. it will be sent to the attendees and also posted on the USAf website" with πŸ‘ 01:49:54 Orla Quinlan: Reacted to "The Paper will be ci..." with πŸ‘ 01:50:52 Nomalanga Mkhize: We need the best African minds here. But we are also grappling with a strong survivalist mindset from fellow Africans that for many years was antagonistic to Black solidarity amongst some 01:52:14 Nomalanga Mkhize: If universities cant show strong purposeful integration of African talent, and make show its not about individual careers, but about our collective project - we will be caught up in a variety of conflicts. Its been quite tense 01:52:30 Babalwa Magoqwana: Reacted to "If universities cant show strong purposeful integration of African talent, and make show its not about individual careers, but about our collective project - we will be caught up in a variety of conflicts. Its been quite tense" with πŸ‘πŸ½ 01:52:33 Segun Ojo: Internationalization and Transformation should not be viewed as being in conflict. Internationalization could be an instrument to advance Transformation. This is in terms of exploiting capacity in the international environment to fill capacity gap in South Africa, required for advancing Transformation. 01:53:33 Nomalanga Mkhize: I don't want to lose African talent to the West. But I also want to capacitate South Africans. We need to show we can do both. 01:53:41 DSTEVENS: Demands in Brazil, Portugal, Italy, China and elsewhere to teach in the local language may play a role in the statistics that were shared. Digging deeper into research activity may reveal that international participation in those systems may be much higher, albeit through a different modality to permanent employment. 01:54:12 DSTEVENS: Reacted to "Internationalization and Transformation should not be viewed as being in conflict. Internationalization could be an instrument to advance Transformation. This is in terms of exploiting capacity in the international environment to fill capacity gap in South Africa, required for advancing Transformation. " with πŸ‘ 01:54:28 Tasmeera Rajcoomar Singh: Reacted to "Internationalization..." with πŸ‘ 01:55:08 Ongama Mtimka: Greetings colleagues. Thank you for the paper and the presentation. Just on the role of the sector and the recommendations: it’s important to note that institution level rights and strategies have to be aligned with the letter and spirit of national imperatives, to the extent that the national imperatives can be assumed to lead to agreed upon visions of a good society. Further, the challenge with statistics is that they create an aggregated picture whereas experiences of people who are whistleblowers tend to be institution specific. Lastly, self governance and autonomy get attacked when the sector concerned is perceived to be failing. 01:55:13 Nomalanga Mkhize: Thanks Magadla- South Africa is not an exception and we must learn the lessons 01:55:23 Nelisa Radu: Reacted to "Thanks Magadla- S..." with πŸ‘ 01:55:25 Karabo Maiyane: Replying to "I don't want to lose..." Isn’t it the case that, to achieve this, the acquisition of scarce skills should be aligned with skills transfer? 01:55:42 Ongama Mtimka: Reacted to "I don't want to lose African talent to the West. But I also want to capacitate South Africans. We need to show we can do both." with ❀️ 02:01:12 Segun Ojo: USAf should continually engage the political class with relevant research-based information dissemination so that viewpoints from the latter are evidence-based. 02:03:50 Segun Ojo: Capacitation of SA academics should deliberately be integral to Internalization. 02:03:57 Nomalanga Mkhize: The weakness of the pipeline is at the Senior Lecturer to Ass Prof level because the system has OVERLOADED academics. Now we cant do research because DHET bureaucrats came up with insane Ethics frameworks 02:04:29 DSTEVENS: Reacted to "The weakness of the pipeline is at the Senior Lecturer to Ass Prof level because the system has OVERLOADED academics. Now we cant do research because DHET bureaucrats came up with insane Ethics frameworks" with ❀️ 02:04:59 Nomalanga Mkhize: If we just look at the middle layer - Senior lectures are HODs, Directors - they're OVERWORKED. You wont get South African professors under these conditions and DHET has an obsession with compliance reporting 02:05:29 DSTEVENS: Reacted to "If we just look at the middle layer - Senior lectures are HODs, Directors - they're OVERWORKED. You wont get South African professors under these conditions and DHET has an obsession with compliance reporting" with ❀️ 02:06:15 Nomalanga Mkhize: Also - in the Science research - the system takes all the Science PhDs into executive administration - so that capacity will never develop. 02:06:39 Nomalanga Mkhize: So the portfolio committee needs quite a lot of contextual information 02:07:29 DSTEVENS: Reacted to "So the portfolio committee needs quite a lot of contextual information" with πŸ’― 02:07:31 Tasmeera Rajcoomar Singh: Well said Mr Magida. A deep internal institutional interrogation is critical. 02:07:56 Wiseman Jack: Well said Meko Magida 02:08:20 SHELDONM: Chair - thank you to the presenter and panel for the insightful engagement. I unfortunately need to exit for another commitment. All the best with the rest of the engagement on this very important matter. Marshall 02:08:35 Felicity Kokose: Reacted to "Chair - thank you to the presenter and panel for the insightful engagement. I unfortunately need to exit for another commitment. All the best with the rest of the engagement on this very important matter. Marshall" with πŸ‘πŸ½ 02:08:36 mahlubichief: Reacted to "Greetings colleagues. Thank you for the paper and the presentation. Just on the role of the sector and the recommendations: it’s important to note that institution level rights and strategies have to be aligned with the letter and spirit of national imperatives, to the extent that the national imperatives can be assumed to lead to agreed upon visions of a good society. Further, the challenge with statistics is that they create an aggregated picture whereas experiences of people who are whistleblowers tend to be institution specific. Lastly, self governance and autonomy gets attacked when the sector concerned is perceived to be failing." with πŸ‘ 02:11:31 Bheki Zungu: Thank you to all the presenters thus far. Mr Magida- I could not agree more. 02:14:10 leolynjackson: We have two interconnected systems shaping the future of internationalisation in South African higher education. Firstly, the national enabling environment: policy coherence (rather than siloed approaches), immigration, public funding, regulatory certainty, economic conditions and international competitiveness. Secondly, the institutional ecosystem: strategic leadership, governance, financial sustainability, organisational agility, research capacity, talent, digital transformation, and the effective implementation of comprehensive and inclusive internationalisation. This raises three questions: If both systems are under pressure, where should universities focus their leadership to create the greatest leverage? Are the biggest barriers external, or do they also reflect institutional leadership and implementation capability? How do we embed internationalisation as an institution-wide strategic capability rather than primarily an international office ? 02:16:10 Ongama Mtimka: Reacted to "We have two interconnected systems shaping the future of internationalisation in South African higher education. Firstly, the national enabling environment: policy coherence (rather than siloed approaches), immigration, public funding, regulatory certainty, economic conditions and international competitiveness. Secondly, the institutional ecosystem: strategic leadership, governance, financial sustainability, organisational agility, research capacity, talent, digital transformation, and the effective implementation of comprehensive and inclusive internationalisation. This raises three questions: If both systems are under pressure, where should universities focus their leadership to create the greatest leverage? Are the biggest barriers external, or do they also reflect institutional leadership and implementation capability? How do we embed internationalisation as an institution-wide strategic capability rather than primarily an international office ?" with πŸ‘Œ 02:16:41 Divinia Jithoo: Reacted to "We have two interconnected systems shaping the future of internationalisation in South African higher education. Firstly, the national enabling environment: policy coherence (rather than siloed approaches), immigration, public funding, regulatory certainty, economic conditions and international competitiveness. Secondly, the institutional ecosystem: strategic leadership, governance, financial sustainability, organisational agility, research capacity, talent, digital transformation, and the effective implementation of comprehensive and inclusive internationalisation. This raises three questions: If both systems are under pressure, where should universities focus their leadership to create the greatest leverage? Are the biggest barriers external, or do they also reflect institutional leadership and implementation capability? How do we embed internationalisation as an institution-wide strategic capability rather than primarily an international office ?" with πŸ‘ 02:20:07 DSTEVENS: There have been many comments during this webinar about context. If we consider Permanent Residents in the same category as Foreign nationals on temporary resident permits, we are not taking their context into account at all. The commitment to settle permanently and contribute to training, research and capacity development in this country, building a life, raising a family, children who naturalise - surely we must think differently about this cohort of people? 02:20:33 leolynjackson: Reacted to "There have been many comments during this webinar about context. If we consider Permanent Residents in the same category as Foreign nationals on temporary resident permits, we are not taking their context into account at all. The commitment to settle permanently and contribute to training, research and capacity development in this country, building a life, raising a family, children who naturalise - surely we must think differently about this cohort of people?" with πŸ‘ 02:20:49 DSTEVENS: Reacted to "We have two interconnected systems shaping the future of internationalisation in South African higher education. Firstly, the national enabling environment: policy coherence (rather than siloed approaches), immigration, public funding, regulatory certainty, economic conditions and international competitiveness. Secondly, the institutional ecosystem: strategic leadership, governance, financial sustainability, organisational agility, research capacity, talent, digital transformation, and the effective implementation of comprehensive and inclusive internationalisation. This raises three questions: If both systems are under pressure, where should universities focus their leadership to create the greatest leverage? Are the biggest barriers external, or do they also reflect institutional leadership and implementation capability? How do we embed internationalisation as an institution-wide strategic capability rather than primarily an international office ?" with ❀️ 02:22:08 Emmanuel Mgqwashu: Do we receive enough financial support from the state to ensure Transformation does not end as 'paper fantasy'? 'Growing' the next generation of knowledge generators requires serious financial and human resources investments, well defined and sufficiently nuanced discipline-orientated programmes, and an 'intellectual will' by seasoned academic mentors to NOT attempt to clone themselves and, instead, allow the next generation of scholars to flourish in ways that are authentic and 'decolonised'. Financial pressures and lack of real financial support 'during' and 'post' doctoral studies mean potential SA-born future scientists quit prematurely to seek for employment to support their families. 02:22:27 Nomalanga Mkhize: Reacted to "Do we receive enough financial support from the state to ensure Transformation does not end as 'paper fantasy'? 'Growing' the next generation of knowledge generators requires serious financial and human resources investments, well defined and sufficiently nuanced discipline-orientated programmes, and an 'intellectual will' by seasoned academic mentors to NOT attempt to clone themselves and, instead, allow the next generation of scholars to flourish in ways that are authentic and 'decolonised'. Financial pressures and lack of real financial support 'during' and 'post' doctoral studies mean potential SA-born future scientists quit prematurely to seek for employment to support their families." with πŸ‘πŸΏ 02:22:57 Tasmeera Rajcoomar Singh: Its a huge concern lumping all the categories together which further fuels the political agenda and the misunderstandings created. It is really time that we change the narrative by a sector wide task team effort. 02:24:41 Orla Quinlan: Replying to "I strongly believe t..." I think this refers to the task team recommended by Crain, at the end of his presentation. 02:25:52 MM: We need to call a spade a spade. Academic Afrophobia has taken root within segments of our higher education system, and if left unchecked, it risks undermining the very foundations of our university ecosystem. Universities thrive on the free movement of ideas, talent, and scholarly excellence. When exclusionary narratives, whether explicit or implicit, begin to shape institutional cultures, recruitment, promotion, and collaboration, the consequences extend far beyond individual academics. They weaken the country's knowledge production, innovation capacity, and global competitiveness 02:26:15 Duro Sadiku: Even foreign students wanting SAQA Certificates, these days wait for several months/year fail to get such from SAQA, even after several reminder notices from such students. If there is a way that SAQA can be involved in this type of discussions, it will be desirable. 02:26:30 Emmanuel Mgqwashu: Reacted to "Even foreign students wanting SAQA Certificates, these days wait for several months/year fail to get such from SAQA, even after several reminder notices from such students. If there is a way that SAQA can be involved in this type of discussions, it will be desirable." with πŸ‘ 02:26:34 Nomalanga Mkhize: Reacted to "Even foreign students wanting SAQA Certificates, these days wait for several months/year fail to get such from SAQA, even after several reminder notices from such students. If there is a way that SAQA can be involved in this type of discussions, it will be desirable." with πŸ‘πŸΏ 02:27:03 leolynjackson: Reacted to "Greetings colleagues. Thank you for the paper and the presentation. Just on the role of the sector and the recommendations: it’s important to note that institution level rights and strategies have to be aligned with the letter and spirit of national imperatives, to the extent that the national imperatives can be assumed to lead to agreed upon visions of a good society. Further, the challenge with statistics is that they create an aggregated picture whereas experiences of people who are whistleblowers tend to be institution specific. Lastly, self governance and autonomy get attacked when the sector concerned is perceived to be failing." with πŸ‘ 02:27:06 Nomalanga Mkhize: Replying to "Even foreign students wanting SAQA Certificates, these days wait for several months/year fail to get such from SAQA, even after several reminder notices from such students. If there is a way that SAQA can be involved in this type of discussions, it will be desirable." You can wait 6 months or more with SAQA. You have to keep apologising to applicants 02:27:48 MM: Universities South Africa (USAf) has an important leadership role to play in working with the national government to ensure that policy, governance, and institutional practice remain firmly anchored in constitutional values, academic excellence, and the public good. This is not about diminishing the importance of transformation or equity. Rather, it is about ensuring that transformation is pursued in ways that strengthen, rather than fragment, South Africa's higher education and research system. There must be a deliberate and sustained effort to arrest the increasingly polarised national discourse that has intensified in recent years, and especially in recent months. 02:27:51 Divinia Jithoo: Reacted to "We need to call a spade a spade. Academic Afrophobia has taken root within segments of our higher education system, and if left unchecked, it risks undermining the very foundations of our university ecosystem. Universities thrive on the free movement of ideas, talent, and scholarly excellence. When exclusionary narratives, whether explicit or implicit, begin to shape institutional cultures, recruitment, promotion, and collaboration, the consequences extend far beyond individual academics. They weaken the country's knowledge production, innovation capacity, and global competitiveness" with πŸ‘ 02:28:00 DSTEVENS: Reacted to "We need to call a spade a spade. Academic Afrophobia has taken root within segments of our higher education system, and if left unchecked, it risks undermining the very foundations of our university ecosystem. Universities thrive on the free movement of ideas, talent, and scholarly excellence. When exclusionary narratives, whether explicit or implicit, begin to shape institutional cultures, recruitment, promotion, and collaboration, the consequences extend far beyond individual academics. They weaken the country's knowledge production, innovation capacity, and global competitiveness" with πŸ’― 02:28:06 leolynjackson: Reacted to "The weakness of the pipeline is at the Senior Lecturer to Ass Prof level because the system has OVERLOADED academics. Now we cant do research because DHET bureaucrats came up with insane Ethics frameworks" with πŸ‘Œ 02:28:12 Anisa, University of Johannesburg, South Africa: Reacted to "We need to call a spade a spade. Academic Afrophobia has taken root within segments of our higher education system, and if left unchecked, it risks undermining the very foundations of our university ecosystem. Universities thrive on the free movement of ideas, talent, and scholarly excellence. When exclusionary narratives, whether explicit or implicit, begin to shape institutional cultures, recruitment, promotion, and collaboration, the consequences extend far beyond individual academics. They weaken the country's knowledge production, innovation capacity, and global competitiveness" with πŸ‘ 02:28:15 MM: Without being alarmist, I believe South Africa has reached a critical inflection point. Decisions taken now will shape the country's intellectual, scientific, and economic trajectory for decades to come. If we fail to protect our universities as spaces of inclusion, excellence, and rigorous scholarship, we risk eroding the very knowledge and innovation systems upon which our future depends. There are valuable lessons to be learned from the experiences of neighbouring countries, including Zimbabwe, where prolonged political and institutional instability contributed to significant challenges for higher education and the loss of academic talent. South Africa still has the opportunity to choose a different path, but that opportunity requires intentional leadership, principled governance, and the courage to confront difficult realities before they become entrenched. 02:29:04 kmercuur: Hi everyone. If we separate the permanent residency permit holders from Foreign Nationals, how do we report on them for EE purposes? 02:29:05 Felicity Kokose: Reacted to "I strongly believe that IEASA also needs to be part of the joint task team as per the recommendations." with πŸ‘πŸ½ 02:29:42 DSTEVENS: Reacted to "Without being alarmist, I believe South Africa has reached a critical inflection point. Decisions taken now will shape the country's intellectual, scientific, and economic trajectory for decades to come. If we fail to protect our universities as spaces of inclusion, excellence, and rigorous scholarship, we risk eroding the very knowledge and innovation systems upon which our future depends. There are valuable lessons to be learned from the experiences of neighbouring countries, including Zimbabwe, where prolonged political and institutional instability contributed to significant challenges for higher education and the loss of academic talent. South Africa still has the opportunity to choose a different path, but that opportunity requires intentional leadership, principled governance, and the courage to confront difficult realities before they become entrenched." with πŸ‘ 02:32:00 Sonwabile: Could you please disaggregate the research output figures by foreign academics employed at South African universities? Could you clarify whether these figures include the outputs of foreign research associates and affiliated researchers, or whether they are limited to full-time academic staff employed by South African universities? Is it possible to provide data on the number of South African PhD graduates supervised/produced by foreign academics employed in South Africa? This information would be valuable in assessing the contribution of international academics to doctoral training and capacity building, which are central objectives of higher education internationalisation. 02:32:09 mahlubichief: Replying to "I strongly believe that IEASA also needs to be part of the joint task team as per the recommendations." Ok. Got it. 02:32:54 Nomalanga Mkhize: We definitely need to have that discussion one day. 02:33:28 Nomalanga Mkhize: Coming from that 'middle layer' that has to both be academic and administrative. 02:33:55 Jakoet-Salie, Amina (Dr) (Summestrand 2nd Avenue): Reacted to "The weakness of the pipeline is at the Senior Lecturer to Ass Prof level because the system has OVERLOADED academics. Now we cant do research because DHET bureaucrats came up with insane Ethics frameworks" with πŸ‘Œ 02:34:12 Nomalanga Mkhize: Picked up same concerns from my peers in the Future Professors programme 02:34:20 Orla Quinlan: Reacted to "Capacitation of SA a..." with πŸ‘ 02:34:58 Jakoet-Salie, Amina (Dr) (Summestrand 2nd Avenue): Reacted to "If we just look at the middle layer - Senior lectures are HODs, Directors - they're OVERWORKED. You wont get South African professors under these conditions and DHET has an obsession with compliance reporting" with ❀️ 02:35:02 Orla Quinlan: Reacted to "If we just look at t..." with πŸ‘ 02:35:35 Orla Quinlan: Replying to "Well said Mr Magida...." Agreed! 02:37:45 HELM Tech Support: Please click on the evaluation link before the end of the webinar. It is short and would be extremely helpful for the future: https://helm.ac.za/helm-engage-22-evaluation/ 02:38:21 Emmanuel Mgqwashu: Universities are 'PRIMARILY' spaces for knowledge creation and dissemination, both for the betterment of individuals AND (more crucially) the Common Good (at a broader societal (level). Universities are not PRIMARILY places for job creation for citizens. The bigger issue is 'political leadership' failure to create conditions for job opportunities, blatant looting from the fiscus (e.g.), have meant the political elite is frantically searching for who to blame - and universities are a 'soft target', thereby distorting 'the reason' for university education in its broader sense for society. 02:38:38 leolynjackson: Replying to "I strongly believe t..." @mahlubichief How are you doing Chief? We must β€œcoffee” at some time 02:38:49 MM: At a time when AI and machine learning are fundamentally redefining knowledge creation, education, qualifications, work, and labour markets, South Africa cannot afford to become inward-looking. Knowledge and innovation are now global, and the countries that attract, develop, and retain the best talent will lead the future. Exclusionary practices and academic Afrophobia are therefore not only unjust, they are strategically self-defeating. 02:38:59 MM: We are living in an era of polycrisis, where technological disruption, geopolitical shifts, climate change, and economic uncertainty are unfolding simultaneously. We cannot be so consumed by local politics that we lose sight of these global realities. South Africa's universities must remain open, inclusive, and globally connected if they are to strengthen our national knowledge and innovation system rather than diminish it. 02:44:02 BRAC: What about the EE Act provison that natusalisation needs to have happened before 1994 for them to be reported for EE representativity purposes? And does internationalisation also include support services? 02:47:54 HELM Tech Support: Please click on the evaluation link before the end of the webinar. It is short and would be extremely helpful for the future: https://helm.ac.za/helm-engage-22-evaluation/ 02:48:42 Duro Sadiku: Could funding (by the Universities) be one of reasons why there are many part-time staff members? 02:51:01 Emmanuel Mgqwashu: Reacted to "Could funding (by the Universities) be one of reasons why there are many part-time staff members?" with πŸ‘ 02:52:21 mahlubichief: Replying to "I strongly believe that IEASA also needs to be part of the joint task team as per the recommendations." And where are you these days, Sir. I am a coffee addict and so cannot say no to that, as long as you don't want me to either fly to CT or Bloem for it. How do you do, Sir? 02:52:35 Clement Nyirenda (UWC): Reacted to "Also - in the Scie..." with πŸ‘ 02:54:06 Segun Ojo: Develop deliberate strategy for SA to grow own timbers, using internationalization as an instrument. 02:54:56 Clement Nyirenda (UWC): Reacted to "There have been ma..." with πŸ‘ 02:56:50 Emmanuel Mgqwashu: Reacted to "Develop deliberate strategy for SA to grow own timbers, using internationalization as an instrument." with πŸ‘ 02:57:39 Dr. Ntokozo Lwandle: Replying to "Develop deliberate..." I think this is all we need to preoccupy ourselves with 02:58:08 Clement Nyirenda (UWC): Reacted to "Even foreign stude..." with ❀️ 02:58:09 Rehana Odendaal: Thanks to the panel, from a junior academic, for the care that you all show in your engagement with this critical issue. I am looking forward to reading the report in detail 02:59:55 Clement Nyirenda (UWC): Replying to "Even foreign stude..." It's really sad. I have found myself recommending exceptionally talented, scholarship-funded students to universities outside our institution. 03:00:16 Segun Ojo: This kind of webinar shiuld involve politicians. The issue of the SA educational qualification environment with <1% of persons aged 25 yrs & over having a masters degree or or higher, needs to be taken cognizance of. That percentage includes retired academics. Discussion about employing foreign academics should start with that basic fact & drawn to the attention of SA politicians & activists. 03:00:23 Babalwa Magoqwana: Thanks colleagues, much appreciated conversation. A lot of work ahead! 03:07:45 Claire Kelly: Very rich discussion. Thank you everyone. 03:08:59 leolynjackson: Reacted to "Even foreign students wanting SAQA Certificates, these days wait for several months/year fail to get such from SAQA, even after several reminder notices from such students. If there is a way that SAQA can be involved in this type of discussions, it will be desirable." with πŸ‘ 03:09:01 ELIZABETH MAVHUNGA: Thank you very much for an engaging session.🌷 03:09:12 Duro Sadiku: Can this type of engagement hold at least thrice a year to be briefed on developments? 03:09:15 leolynjackson: Reacted to "Thanks to the panel, from a junior academic, for the care that you all show in your engagement with this critical issue. I am looking forward to reading the report in detail" with πŸ‘ 03:09:37 kmercuur: Thank you everyoneπŸ‘ 03:09:50 Fiona Moolla: Thank you 03:09:50 Saloschini Pillay: Thank You Colleagues 03:10:00 Orla Quinlan: Thank you. 03:10:03 BRAC: Thank you for an informative engagement. 03:10:34 Clement Nyirenda (UWC): Thank you